The Winchesters’ Boss Talks Finale’s ‘Emotional’ Dean Story, They Surprise Supernatural Cameo — Plus, Grade It!

Warning: The following contains spoilers for the winchesters, ending. Proceed at your own risk!

Seeing it the winchesters‘ (season?) finale, you may have asked yourself, “Am I really watching divine, Because Tuesday’s episode included not only several scenes with Dean Winchester aka executive producer Jensen Ackles, but also unexpected appearances from hunter Bobby Singer (Jim Beaver) and Heaven’s new Lord, Jack (Alexander Calvert). .

Let’s revisit how Mary and John’s changed love story fits in divine Mythology: After learning that the Acrida Queen was a hunter who preyed on mankind before leaving for the other world, Mary and the gang summon the mysterious stranger (aka Dean) using her journal, but who It appears to be his beloved car, Baby. Because he is already dead. Mary uses the Impala to drive the Queen straight through a portal, then returns with Dean behind the wheel.

Dean identifies himself as a hunter (aka: James Hetfield) and explains that when he divine series finale), he took Baby on a drive through the multiverse in search of an Earth where her family had a shot at a happy ending. Only then did he learn of Acrida, one of Chuck’s final creations that would erase existence if he failed. While Sam was alive, Dean was probably not going to let Acrida visit his brother’s land. So as she explained to Bobby in an earlier scene, she gives Henry’s letter to John to point him in the right direction.

Jack shows up to warn Dean about interfering, but Dean argues that Sam deserves a good, long life, and that if Jack wants to kick him out of Heaven, then so be it. Of course, Jack gives her a pass and tells her to finish what she started. Dean gives John and Mary his journal, then warns Mary to beware of the yellow-eyed demon before handing her the colt. Now that Acrida is gone, John and Mary are free to choose their own destinies, which they do by leaving town together, and Dean believes that he may have finally found a version of his parents in which to live happily ever after. There would be a real chance.

Below, showrunner Robbie Thompson talks about Dean’s “very heavy” storyline in the finale and what a potential season 2 could look like the winchesters, (The show has yet to be renewed or canceled; click here for Thompson’s comments on its future.)

tvline , As promised, we now have answers: It’s John and Mary from another world, and Dean is coming from heaven. So why was this the right way into this story for you?
when jensen and daniels [Ackles] The first one came to me and gave me the idea, which was a love story of John and Mary told from the point of view of them hunting together, which obviously we all knew, because they lived it and I wrote some of it. And we all saw it, it wasn’t quite a line up. But we all really loved that basic premise, and we also really loved the idea of ​​hearing this story from Dean’s point of view. We’ve talked often, but divine, The way the Winchester family, God bless them, [has] Lots of intergenerational trauma and issues and mischief. It started the conversation, “Well, how does that work?” We started talking about that core issue.

I was not interested in upvoting anything for lack of a better expression past, present or future divine, We’re only a few years away from, I’m going to call this the for-now finale, because, hopefully, there’s more story ahead… Obviously, the idea of ​​the multiverse was pretty one-stop shopping, pretty early on in terms of is coming. And then, it was a question of, “Will this still be an emotional story for Dean?” And it felt like we had a really interesting opportunity to tell a story with Dean’s character, even if it wasn’t necessarily in every single episode… There were dozens of ways to make it work, but this felt like one that would feel the most passionate, without overdoing anything obviously, and it felt like a story that we could tell about Dean, technically, in the pilot, but where did he go during our first season finale? Is.

We had a few occasions when we were looking at the issue of the timeline where we could exist where, again, nothing would happen, and there were really only two spots within that. That was the space between Episodes 19 and 20, when what happens to Dean with Dean… So there was an opportunity for storytelling, but that didn’t work for me because we wouldn’t have access to Sam that way, In a way that we could easily explain or at least emotionally explain, and it didn’t feel like this was a story that of course I wanted to tell and neither of us did. And the other option was when he’s apparently in heaven, because we see him get there and he has his scene with Bobby, but then he goes for a drive. It was immediately very exciting for all of us in terms of a place to live and tell our story.

tvline , There’s a lot of Dean in this episode, which I’m sure is pleasing divine Lots of fans. What kind of conversation did you and Jensen have about Dean’s presence and his mission in this episode? Did Jensen have any strong feelings about any of the details? Did he have any ideas for this particular episode that you can share?
with finale, [it] were really the same talking points that Jensen had from the beginning, and I don’t want to speak on his behalf, but he was really very clear that he wanted to narrate, he wanted there to be a Dean story , but – I’m paraphrasing here – he didn’t want it to seem dean show, It needed to be a story about Mary and John. At the same time, he recognizes that there is a strong desire to see that pretty face behind the wheel of that car again.

So it was really a balancing act. While we were breaking the story in the room, I called her and pitched it to her. I was very clear, “It’s going to be two scenes, but the second scene is a meaty one. Obviously, it’s going to have some reveal because we’re going to reveal what you’re doing,” but really , it was the emotional side of it. I was like, “This is going to be too heavy.”

Daniel is one who’s a really wonderful barometer like, “Are we making sure we’re telling a story that’s both divine fans and winchester fans?” It had to work out for the two of them, and we didn’t want Dean to take over this episode. But we all knew as soon as we saw him in that picture at the end of Episode 8, there was a lot Will be interested in, “Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. Is Dean going to come back?” In fact, I remember my first conversation with Drake. [Rodger], we were just in New Orleans and hanging out… and then as we were getting into the nuts and bolts of the show, he was like, “Hey, so apparently Dean is finally here in the pilot. What Any chance we’ll do scenes with him?” He was really just a fan of the show who wanted to act with Jensen. and i knew that if we [got] Picked up, that was where we’re going to build on in this first season. I was like, “Buddy, if we get there, I’ve got you covered. Don’t worry about it.”

[Jensen and I] got really grainy [second] Scenes that we were going to reference, that we weren’t going to reference, different callbacks to different moments in the series. He improved a few things that day too… He was like, “When Carlos asks that question, I want to say, ‘That’s a good question, Carlos.’ We talked about it, and we never said it officially, but I did refer to Carlos’ name in an episode divine, and in my mind, it was always the same Carlos, just a different universe. It was a way of acknowledging that there was little in this universe without him somehow noticing.

tvline , Fans are probably anticipating Dean’s arrival because of all the hints you’ve been given in the season, but having Jack and Bobby in the finale was a pleasant surprise. Can you talk about bringing them in and what’s the right fit to include these characters?
I think all the writers had their own separate list of legacy characters that we wanted to bring back. For me, there was no sequence like, “Oh, that’s my No. 1 or whatever,” but the first name I wrote down was Bobby Singer, and there were two reasons: Jim Beaver has been there every single season. divineBobby was alive or not. So I was like, “Okay, that must be in winchester, But I love that character, and Jim Beaver as an actor is someone I totally adore, and I loved it. I had never met him in person, and so the night we were out shooting, it was pure bliss, just hanging out with him, talking about old movies… To me, Bobby was a no-brainer and Was a great explorer – the family man in Sam and Dean Winchester’s lives. And he was also the last person Dean saw before he made the drive to Heaven, so it made sense that he’d potentially be the one to follow and help.

With Jack, we desperately needed him to come because we, literally, needed a little deus ex machina in there at the end. Jack was a character that was created after I left [Supernatural]So I’ve never had a chance to work with Alex, but I’m a huge fan of his… We needed someone who had that level of, frankly, power and his pride, who really Finally step in there and kind of ship right.

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tvline , It was a very clear story trajectory with John and Mary meeting in Season 1, Akrida as the Big Bad, and then the mystery of how it’s all going to happen. divine Mythology, you solved it. With this finale, John and Mary’s story feels like it’s over. They go in together, there’s that beautiful montage that’s very much like, “We’re wrapping it up.” What do you see a possible season 2 of if the show is renewed?
That’s a great question, and I’m going to be discreet with my answer because I don’t know what’s going to happen, obviously. [at The CW], I don’t think anyone does at the moment. These are interesting times, as the kids say. we saw [our first season] As for the chapter, and this first 13 episodes, whether we were only going to get 13 or 22, we wanted to end this chapter, both with Dean on the emotional side and with Acrida on the plot side. It was by design, and some of it is exactly what you just said, which is that it was a great romance, for lack of a better word, it was all lovely, and to me, it was an ending. [to] that part of the story.

In terms of where we could go, it had scale, “it’s the end of the world,” and all the usual hijinks. But it also kind of matches the scale of what you feel in that young romance where you’re like, “Oh my god, it’s us versus the world.” In the success of Season 2, without spoiling anything, we definitely know where we want to go, and I think maybe you and I talked about that when we talked before. [this season]As a writer, its romance has always appealed to me the most because I’ve never really written those kinds of things in my career. Her first act is always union and falling in love and its intensity. But then there’s the question of how do you maintain it, and what does it look like, especially in a universe where monsters are real? And so we have an incredible opportunity, given a chance to tell more of the story, what it really means to be in a relationship in this kind of context, what it means to maintain love, what it means to just fall in love. Not there.

It’s one of the reasons we ended it the way we did. We didn’t really change anything when we found out we were only going to have 13 episodes. We wanted it to feel like the chapter was closed and the plot mechanics locked down, but emotionally, there was room for more story. There’s a lot more story to tell about where these two kids go. And because now, as Dean says at the end of the episode, he has a chance to write his own story that doesn’t necessarily end with whatever happened. Our version of divine, we have the opportunity to go to some really interesting places. I hope we get a chance to do so.

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